Transcription made by: Sai Nidhi Mataji and Shrushthi Nidhi Mataji
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes, it's independent mindedness. They don't want to surrender. They don't want to come under your control, control, you see? They're, they are das, das, godas, they have become Godas. They have become the servant of their stupid mind, not Kṛṣṇa das, Godas. How can you serve Kṛṣṇa?
Service should be rendered under the guidance of a bona fide acharya, guru. āśraya lañā bhaje, tāre kṛṣṇa nāhi tyaje [Thākura Vaiṣṇava Pada Verse1]. Taking shelter one should do bhajan then Krsna will never leave you. Otherwise, if you render services whimsically, today this one, or today something else, if there's something that your stupid mind says, you do Kṛṣṇa never accepts that service. Yeah. And they, they are breaking regulative principles. They're not chanting 16 rounds, so who is there to look after it? Because they have no guru. So, who is there to stop them? Nobody is there. So, they don't want it. Such thing is going on.
Yeah, they are losing faith. They have no faith. Kṛṣṇa says, saṁśayātmā vinaśyati [Bg 4.40] faithless person fails. And sometimes, they also give the example of some exceptional person. That they think you are exceptional. He does so. Why not I? That means you are exceptional. It's such, such vanity, such pride, you see? Such pride. I am so exceptional. I am like Bhakti Vinod Thakur. I am like Pundarik Vidyanidhi. They think like that. You are like Pundarik Vidyanidhi? Exceptional person. "Oh, I am like that." You see? tṛṇād api sunīcena , Mahaprabhu says tṛṇād api sunīcena Much humbler than a blade of grass. Oh, Hmm? They are thinking that, "We are exceptional person now. We are exceptional person." What is this? Unfortunate situation. They are not ready to accept any help. They believe they have to make someone else accept their help.
Devotee: They blame others.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yeah. They blame others, even they... don't blame Kṛṣṇa. They put the blame on Kṛṣṇa. They say the person has... because I am not at fault, why I got such thing? This is what they are thinking. You are not at fault, and then the arrangement of Kṛṣṇa, there is some mistake. So, Kṛṣṇa is at fault. Indirectly, they say it. Yeah. They say it indirectly. As you sow you will reap. you see? As you sow you will reap Yeah Nobody can help it. And
Devotee: It says, uh, it says that, um, in the other mistake, um, you know, it's a very non-genre term, but he says-
Gour Govinda Swami: Who, who?
Devotee: that the ninth, uh, um, you know offense, if one doesn't, you know, with, you know, attentive chanting, this is the root, you know, cause of sort of envy to jealousy and everything.
Gour Govinda Swami: That is the
Devotee: So, how
Gour Govinda Swami: that is the chief reason, chief offense, you see? You cannot get Kṛṣṇa prema. Inattentiveness. pramāda dosa. that Bhakti Vinod Thakur said in Hari-nāma-cintāmaṇi. Only Bhakti Vinod Thakur has said that. Nobody else has said that.
Devotee: It was, it seems so, you know, difficult to, to, you know, fix the mind.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yeah.
Devotee: So it's,
Gour Govinda Swami: Mind is so fickle, so stubborn, uh, disobedient, strong. That guru got to take. You can see by his personality.
Devotee: So how do we... are we able to get that strength then to fix the mind?
Gour Govinda Swami: Bhagavatam says two, two weapons are there to control the stupid mind. First thing don't listen to the prompting of your stupid mind. Don't listen. Some stupid mind prompting, "You, get out stupid mind! I am, I am not there to listen to you. You have to listen to me." Very strongly say, just avoid.
And second thing, weapon is Hari Guru Charana Pasanastra. Take shelter of Hari Guru. That is next weapon. Most powerful weapon. No guru can forsake this thing. Then stupid mind will listen. Otherwise, it won't listen. So, if you have no guru, so I say that you have no controller. Who will control your stupid mind then? Can you become the controller of your stupid mind? No, no. You have become his servant. You cannot become his controller. It's so difficult.
Bhaktivinoda Thakura says hara je menicaami, O Gopinath I admit my defeat, mana je pāgala moranā māne śāśana. My Mind is so stupid so strong, stubborn it is pagal, he is mad fellow, I tried my best to inflict some control over it, I failed, doesn’t obey. Bhakti Vinod Thakur told. hara je me, tumi hṛṣīkeśa hṛṣīka damiyā, tārahe samsṛti-ghore, but Goipnath you are hṛṣīkeśa, you are the controller, you are the master of mind. Please take care of your mind. At last he says hari guru carana padma, Take shelter of Hari Guru Otherwise you cannot control.
It requires higher command. And who is giving you higher command? You have no guru. Then how can you control your stupid mind? That's all. You have become servant of your stupid mind. Because the stupid mind say stupid. And you are saying, "Yes, yes we are. Serving, we are rendering service at the bhajan. We have accepted Prabhupada." Yes. Does Prabhupada impart some control over you? Has Prabhupada accepted you as his disciple? No. How to say? Guru will accept the disciple, and you accept that Vaishnav sadhu as guru. Acceptance on your part, acceptance on guru's part also. Yes, I accept you as my disciple. Then you take some responsibility. As Prabhupada said, "Yes, I accept you as my disciple." Then how do you say? Very interesting.
Devotee: Bhaktivinoda Thakura gives three reasons for this, uh, inattentiveness. One of them is laziness.
Gour Govinda Swami: Laziness, alasya
Devotee: What are the other, the other two?
Gour Govinda Swami: nistara bhava, One is laziness. Second is nistara bhava, that you are not so serious Lacking seriousness. And third thing is, you are not following strictly this principle, regulative principles. Three things are there.
Devotee: In the in Bhagavatam it was, uh, especially the Narayana Parivraja.
Gour Govinda Swami: Narayana Parivartan.
Devotee: If you worship, if you worship Lord Buddha, you can conquer laziness. Is that recommended for Vaishnavas? It is said that if you worship Lord Buddha, Buddha, Buddha-
Gour Govinda Swami: Buddha.
Devotee: you can conquer laziness.
Gour Govinda Swami: Buddha?
Devotee: Buddha takes away laziness.
Gour Govinda Swami: That we are not doing. We are taking complete shelter of holy name. That's not applicable for us. No need such cover. Holy name is shield. You see, acts like shield. Yes. This is our cover, holy name.
Yes. If you can really take complete shelter of holy name, then you're protected. Yes. Because in Kali Yuga there is one name incarnation. No other incarnation is there. And name is more merciful. Name of Kṛṣṇa is more merciful than Kṛṣṇa. That is truth. Yes. That's a fact. That's a fact.
Devotee: I was reading in the Caitanya Caritamrita. Prabhupada was discussing the Gauranga Nagari.
Gour Govinda Swami: Gauranga Nagari.
Devotee: Saying that worship Lord Chaitanya as Kṛṣṇa.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes.
Devotee: So, I was wondering, in our deity worship, how we offer tulsi leaf to, to the Lord Chaitanya's feet. Is that upsetting to Lord Chaitanya's mood of Radha bhav.
Gour Govinda Swami: Tulsi leaf, you see? When we offer prasad, we offer tulsi leaf. Gauranga's mood is mood of devotee bhakta bhava. Though he is Krsna, non-different from Krsna. As you know tattva is there, but his mode is there, don’t disturb his mood. If you disturb his mood he will never be pleased with you. We render service for this pleasure, not our pleasure.
So this question is there offering Tulsi, peacock feather, putting peacock feather, put peacock feather and he becomes Krsna, so he cannot cry for Krsna. Then his mood is disturbed, because he's crying for Krsna. kahā kṛṣṇa-nanda-kula chandana. He's crying. How can he cry? No, I am Krsna. The mood is different, the mood of Radha-rani, radha-bhava, madhva-bhava.
So Prabhupada also said, "Don't disturb the mood of Gauranga." You have to remember that. In one conversation Prabhupada said, "In Ekadashi don't offer this anna, grain to Guru and Gauranga Mahaprabhu." This is advice.
Devotee: Why did Lord Gauranga sometimes have the mood of, uh, of Krsna, but sometimes He didn't have... like there's one, one time when He went to Visnu temple and took some prasadam on the procession?
Gour Govinda Swami: Oh, because He is Krsna.
Devotee: So sometimes-
Gour Govinda Swami: He, He, He manifested universal form before Advaitacharya. So, He is Visnu. It's very rare occasion, but His mood is... and He manifest this thing only with, with His intimate devotees. He showed Raya Ramananda how is the union of Radha and Krsna. Only to him.
But His general mood is, is teaching us how to surrender, how to cry for Krsna. His mood is that, radha-bhava. This is rare occasion, a rare occasion before rare personalities, not before anybody. When they temple worship, it is for anybody. And if you are privileged with the eye, you see how is Krsna, as Raya Ramananda saw. You see it. But difficulty is there.
Devotee: Ramananda Raya and Svarupa Damodara-
Gour Govinda Swami: Pardon me?
Devotee: Svarupa Damodara and Ramananda Raya, they were-
Gour Govinda Swami: They are Ramananda. Sankhya, Visakha Sankhya.
Devotee: they were understanding that Lord Chaitanya was Krsna.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes.
Devotee: But they were encouraging his mood for-
Gour Govinda Swami: Mood. Yes.
Devotee: Mahaprabhu.
Gour Govinda Swami: They were according the mood of the Mahaprabhu, they were quoting verses and singing accordingly, just to nourish his mood. They are doing this, because to please Him, that pleases... Our service is to please Him. Then... don't disturb the mood of Gauranga.
We know He is supreme personality of Godhead, we know sastra-tattva, we know sastra-chakshu and go on ourselves. Eye, vision. He sees how is Krsna. He sees as Raya Ramananda saw, huh? But the devotee cannot see. The devotee sees Chaitanya is crying here for Krsna, is, feeling the pangs of separation from Krsna, vipralambhava-bhava, vipralambhava-bhava, vipralambhava-bhava. When pangs of separation from Krsna, that is vipralambhava-bhava. As Radharani's feelings, gopi-bhava, radha-bhava, just for everybody.
But when is susch a intimate devotee, He see everything. What is that. Just for example, when the great devotee of Lord Ram, like Hanumanji, he comes to Krsna temple, he sees Lord Ram, and Krsna shows him that form if he wants to see this form. That is life. Why we do like that? You don't understand his mood. So, he begs us to see the... "Please show me Your real form how that is showed to Raya Ramananda." So He can show you. Mahaprabhu can show you if you are really like Him, such a devotee like Raya Ramananda. He can show you?
But these general people when they say this thing, "Oh, you are Lord Gauranga," no justice. He has no... No, no, no, no. I am mere jiva. I am mere jiva. kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam [ŚB 1.3.28](Singing in Indian language) Krsna is Bhagavan. gopī-bhartuḥ pada-kamalayor dāsa-dāsānudāsaḥ [CC Madhya13.80] I am the servant of servant of servant of servant of the husband of gopi, so... You see? You are prepared to listen all these things, where is Krsna? In Caitanya-caritāmṛta that is there when he meet this, but who are put on, like deer serves here, lion skin.
Devotee: Brahmananda Bharati? Brahmananda Bharati?
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes.
Devotee: Brahmananda Bharati?
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes, Brahmananda Bharati. You see? That thing you see, they're discussing. And Sarvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya. Huh? They made Sarvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya the, the mediator to sort this dispute. And Sarvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya said these things, "No, no, no, no. Don't say, don't say like that. I am not that." And he says, "I see two type Jagannāth, Chalanti Jagannāth and uh..." What is that?
Devotee: One moving Jagannāth and one non-moving Jagannāth.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes. Uh, moving Jagannāth and non-moving Jagannāth. One is there in the temple and this one. You see. "Don't say this." You see. This is Gaura-bhakta. He should understand it clearly what is his mood.
Devotee: So, Damodar would also scrutinize what anyone was going to present?
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes, yes, yes. Then it will go to Mahāprabhu at once, no doubt. That is there, he wrote these verses, two verses.
vairāgya-vidyā-nija-bhakti-yoga- śikṣārtham ekaḥ puruṣaḥ purāṇaḥ śrī-kṛṣṇa-caitanya-śarīra-dhārī kṛpāmbudhir yas tam ahaṁ prapadye [CC Madhya 6.254]
The next verse, two verses, you know. Sarvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya, The palm leaf, presented to Mahāprabhu. As soon as Mahāprabhu saw it, He tore it to pieces and threw away. Because His own praise, but that Kṛṣṇa gave to them. Before that, devotees have written these two verses and they were... so they committed. Remember. So, these verses are there
Devotee: So, Sārvadharman's question about the Tulasī leaves on the lotus feet of Lord Caitanya, is that because He's Viṣṇu-tattva, we just worship in this way?
Gour Govinda Swami: So, offering Tulasī leaf and offering peacock feather, the same. It's the same.
Devotee: Well, they, they offer Tulasī leaf here on the feet of Caitanya Mahāprabhu. I asked the pūjārī- "Why did you do that?" And he told me, "Oh, all Viṣṇu-tattva, you must do." On it's there, it's just for all Viṣṇu-tattva deities, you must put Tulasī leaf on the foot. That injunction is there.
Gour Govinda Swami: Now, but the same, same thing is Kṛṣṇa's area of activity. He accepts the when devotee offers. So, it's clear.
Devotee: It is not to disturb His mood? Not to disturb His mood or?
Gour Govinda Swami: Uh, it will never disturb so much. But You put pīṭha-līlā, maybe. Then He'll say, "Oh, it goes on my head." And cry lot. (laughs) You stop His crying.
Devotee: I, I was reading one book once by Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura about Rādhārāṇī. Where he describes Rādhārāṇī's bodily features and the way she dresses, and... One description was that she was also wearing this, peacock feathers.
Gour Govinda Swami: Rādhārāṇī'?
Devotee: Yes. He described that she also wore peacock feathers in this description.
Gour Govinda Swami: Good. Good to hear.
Devotee: Yeah, I've never heard this description, but in, um, Rādhāṣṭaka or something, and, uh, and, uh, two books translated by Ku- Kusukranta. Two books in one book, both about Rādhārāṇī. He describes many details in that. And I was thinking about that, that would she wear peacock feathers? Is it right? And then... then and read that. So-
Gour Govinda Swami: Oh.
Devotee: They're not features. They're not general features, but that was written by Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura. So...
Gour Govinda Swami: So, very rare occasion sometimes Rādhārāṇī also wears flute.
Devotee: Yes, I've read that.
Gour Govinda Swami: Like this.
Devotee: Yeah.
Gour Govinda Swami: She steals flute from Krsna.
Devotee: Yes.
Gour Govinda Swami: See, that is there. That is very high, supreme līlā. You see?
Devotee: Also, there is one, uh, it refers to one, one līlā, Mora, Mora Kuṭi it is called in Vṛndāvan. She dresses as Kṛṣṇa, he dresses as Rādhā.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes.
Devotee: So, she has, she has peacock feather. I mean, that's-
Gour Govinda Swami: It's very high, something rare occasion. That's supreme līlā, you see.
Devotee: His description was that, he was dressed in forest garment.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes,
Devotee: And many forest flowers.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes. That is gopaviṣa. Yes, forest flower, forest leaves, like this.
Devotee: Yes.
Gour Govinda Swami: So, simple garment and scarf. Gopaviṣa.
Devotee: Yeah. And... And this... Very-
Gour Govinda Swami: That is prema leela sometimes they have forgotten themselves. Static and forget.
Devotee: I was thinking like that.
Gour Govinda Swami: As for example, Kṛṣṇa sometimes disguises himself. Kṛṣṇa becomes man for Radha Rani. He goes to Radha Rani and putting on sari. The wife of barber, wife of- this washerman. Goes to her, "Please come in. I'll put on this red stuff all down your feet. Please give your clothes. I'll wash it for you," you see? The leanness, the heart. He simply goes mad for her. It's not general thing, so we should not display all these things. Nobody can understand it.
Devotee: Oh, it was, it was written that... So, there was something on my mind.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes.
Devotee: I was thinking just like you said, don't disturb Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's mood. Don't give Him peacock feather. So I was thinking, well, Radha Rani wears peacock feather. But nobody's pointing at Her saying, "Oh, You're Kṛṣṇa.". So it wouldn't be the same, would it?
Gour Govinda Swami: Radha Rani never puts peacock because generally very rare occasion sometime that lila comes. Very high prema lila. Radha Rani stills the flute of Krsna and puts on the, the dresses of Kṛṣṇa like this. Why stranger are there? Do you know Kṛṣṇa? Rare and only such devotees who are in that level only they can see such things. Otherwise nobody can see such thing.
That, that is saying. Mahaprabhu displayed that, He manifested that before Raya Ramana how His union of Radha and Kṛṣṇa. So if you are such a devotee of Raya Ramana you can see that. Mahaprabhu can manifest it. Why not dress Him like that? Temple means is for public.
Devotee: I see. Actually, this temple has amazing way of dressing the deities here because I always wanted to see Kṛṣṇa like that. Everywhere else it's so opulent. It's nice and opulent here. But very often they dress the deities very simple here.
Gour Govinda Swami: Simple, but look nice.
Devotee: And They're just wearing some hair up like this with peacock feathers and some... very simple. And in blue and in yellow, all the time blue and yellow, blue and yellow.
Gour Govinda Swami: Looks nice.
Devotee: Yes, it's very nice. Not even in Vrindavan- (laughs) ... They're doing that. (laughs)
Gour Govinda Swami: Speciality here.
Devotee: Yeah, it's specialty here
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes, specialty. Prabhupada's last mercy.
Devotee: I, I was reading ma- in songs also Prabhupada says many times, "Kṛṣṇa demanded that you first surrender."
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes.
Devotee: But Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, He doesn't demand. What does This mean? He freely gives, but He doesn't demand that you surrender. What does... He gives you first-
Gour Govinda Swami: There is no question of demand. It's question of love. Spontaneously you will surrender. That's because you know love.
Devotee: So, He gives love first.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes, He gives love.
Devotee: And then you-
Gour Govinda Swami: Then you spontaneously surrender.
Devotee: So He gives the love first so you can surrender?
Gour Govinda Swami: Without any discrimination He gives. patita pāmara nāhi bāche, brahmār durlabha prema sabākāre jāce. Even Brahma cannot get. He's air, air and fire from Brahma. Difficult for Brahma to get. He is freely.
Devotee: So He's giving freely.
Gour Govinda Swami: Therefore, then you surrender. Without love you cannot surrender. There's no question of demand.
Devotee: But Kṛṣṇa says first surrender, then surrender.
Gour Govinda Swami: No demands. Kṛṣṇa in form of Mahaprabhu never demands. He gives love and you automatically, spontaneously you surrender.
Devotee: So that love He is giving so freely?
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes, again, freely. Freely.
Devotee: Yes.
Gour Govinda Swami: But we are so rascal we cannot accept it.
Devotee: Cannot accept it.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes. durdaivam īdṛśam ihājani nānurāgaḥ [Śikṣāṣṭakam Verse 2]
Devotee: It is just this duplicit heart.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes.
Devotee: That's the only thing.
Gour Govinda Swami: Only thing, only thing, yes.
Devotee: That's the only thing, because I remember in Chaitanya Bhagavata it says one statement Vrindavan das Thakur wrote was that, "Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu will deliver all the drunkards and meat eaters."
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes, yes, yes.
Devotee: "But the Brahmanas and the-"
Gour Govinda Swami: Ah.
Devotee: "... and those learned people."
Gour Govinda Swami: Learned people.
Devotee: "They will all stay here. They will go to hell." He says like that.
Gour Govinda Swami: They don't accept this.
Devotee: They won't accept
Gour Govinda Swami: No, He gives freely. Such people don't accept it, you see? Yes. Brahmana and Padma-Padma. Yes.
Devotee: Yes. Those who are thinking that they are very great.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yeah. No, He gives freely. Still we are so stupid we cannot accept it.
Devotee: When you say use freely, that means with a pure chanting?
Gour Govinda Swami: Yeah. Pure chanting, you get mercy.
Devotee: So when we say freely, it's not exactly free. It's through pure chanting.
Gour Govinda Swami: Anybody chants, he, he gets... He never discriminates whether the chant is eligible to get or not. patita pāmara nāhi bāche, He says most degraded, most sinful.
Devotee: They chanted purely.
Gour Govinda Swami: Ah. When they got the mercy of Nityananda Prabhu, Nityananda Prabhu is more merciful, māri khāyā prema diyā was beaten still gave prema.
Devotee: I see.
Gour Govinda Swami: And Mahaprabhu got angry and mood changed, they surrendered. Then Nityananda Prabhu said, "Go to Nityananda." And then Mahaprabhu said, "Go to Nityananda Prabhu. Committed offence there." Went to Nityananda Prabhu. Nityananda Prabhu impressed.
From that day they gave up completely all their sinful activities, bad habits, everything. Strictly followed the rules. Chanted. Become pure sadhu. Sadhu. They become Jagadananda. What is that?
Devotee: Madavananda Prabhu.
Gour Govinda Swami: Madavananda. Jagad Ananda.
Devotee: Yes.
Gour Govinda Swami: They became Mardavananda, Jagadananda. Sadhu. They never violated. They never violated from that day. Yeah.
Devotee: Nityananda seems to give his mercy so freely.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes.
Devotee: Then why am I not getting it? One might question this.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes. Ask Nityananda.
Devotee: Yes. It's so many songs are like this.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes. So many songs.
Devotee: Oh, Nityananda Prabhu, you're being so... You are so merciful, but why am I not?
Gour Govinda Swami: Why you are not?
Devotee: Why am I not getting mercy from Nityananda Prabhu?
Gour Govinda Swami: Why? Yes, āmi keno duḥkhī
Devotee: Yes.
Gour Govinda Swami: Oh, Nityananda. āmi keno duḥkhī Oh, Nityananda, why I'm not getting? He was so magnanimous and so freely giving. Please, please. (laughs) dharo nitāi-caraṇa du'khāni.
Devotee: Okay.
Gour Govinda Swami: Clasp, clasp rightly-
Devotee: Yes.
Gour Govinda Swami: ... the two feet of Nityananda.
Devotee: Yes. And then that song is there. Everybody is asking about the mercy of Nityananda Prabhu. How can we get it? How can we get this mercy of Nityananda?
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes. Go and approach and clasp his two feet. Narottama das thakur says dharo nitāi-caraṇa du'khāni.
Devotee: So we should approach Nityananda. You said guru, spiritual master is rep- representative of Nityananda.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes, that is-
Devotee: So it means that-
Gour Govinda Swami: Guru Nityananda Ram.
Devotee: So when you say we should approach Nityananda, that means we should approach the spiritual master and clasp his feet.
Gour Govinda Swami: That is our teaching tattva, Manifestation of Nityananda. Yes.
Devotee: We cannot approach him directly?
Gour Govinda Swami: Guru Nityananda Ram. Guru Nityananda Ram.
Devotee: We can't approach Nityananda directly. We cannot-
Gour Govinda Swami: Through guru, that's all right. If you are so. Pray to Nityananda. You can pray. Offer prayer. kabe nitāi-cāndera koruṇā hoibe, saṁsāra-bāsanā mora kabe tucchā ha'be. So many prayers are there
Devotee: So if one prays to lotus feet of Lord Nityananda and accepts guru is representative of Lord Nityananda.
Gour Govinda Swami: Yes, that is...
Devotee: in that way, he, he-
Gour Govinda Swami: That is our philosophy.
Devotee: That is everything.
Gour Govinda Swami: Everything. Everything. Yeah.
Devotee: No, no other person.
Gour Govinda Swami: Nityananda's mercy comes through guru because he is the manifestation of Nityananda Ram, you see. Balaram. He's Balaram. He's Balaram.
Balaram's plow, first thing, Balaram's plow. Cultivation. karsana Then akarsana, Kṛṣṇa's fruit will come then, attract. Karsana, akarsana Cultivation and attraction. Vaidi, Raganuga, Vaidi Bhakti, Raganuga Bhakti
Devotee: Is Lord Nityananda's mood different? Is, uh, it's not gopi bhav? Lord Nityananda's devotional mood, is it-
Gour Govinda Swami: No. That Lord Nityananda is the more merciful, more magnanimous, more munificent. More. Yeah. If you want to get the mercy of Chaitanya, then you must get the mercy of Nityananda. Otherwise, you cannot get mercy of Chaitanya. Then you get the mercy of Chaitanya, then you approach Kṛṣṇa.
This is our process. Nityananda, Gauravasi. Then you cannot go directly. This is the process. Gaudiya Vaishnav temple, you can find, see there. There must be. Radha and Kṛṣṇa must be Gaurangas, must be.
Devotee: Maharaj, you said in class the other day that even if one is a strict brahmacari or a strict sannyasi, that will not satisfy Kṛṣṇa.
Gour Govinda Swami: Unless it satisfies the guru. Yes.
Devotee: Because the guru orders these things, we can take the order of guru?
Gour Govinda Swami: yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo. Gurv-aṣṭaka, yasyāprasādān na gatiḥ kuto 'pi. If Guru is displeased, you have no existence. Krsna will never be pleased.
hari-sthāne aparādhe tāre hari-nāma tomā-sthāne aparādhe nāhi paritrāṇa [Ei-bāro Karuṇā Koro Vaiṣṇava Gosāi-
If you commit offence to the lotus feet of Lord Hari, the Hari name will deliver you. But oh Vaishnava Thakur, if I commit some offence to your lotus feet, nobody can deliver me. Neither Hari... Neither Kṛṣṇa nor his name. Nobody can deliver you.
And Kṛṣṇa Balarama were brahmacaris. Yes. That's what Sandipani Muni, they have manifested that lila, They served Guru. That Supreme Personality of Godhead. They sustained so much bodily pain, you see, for service of Guru. Yes. Manifested this as sat-sishya. Sandipani Muni says sat-sishya. The body is my dear to Me, what you so much bodily pain for me. Sat-sishya. Sandipani Muni impressed with their sat-sishya. They're truly sat-sishya.
That matter, when Sudama Vipra went to Dwaraka. Kṛṣṇa recollected those days because Sudama Virpra was also a student there. That verse is there.
nāham ijyā-prajātibhyāṁ tapasopaśamena vā tuṣyeyaṁ sarva-bhūtātmā guru-śuśrūṣayā yathā [ŚB 10.80.34]
That verse is there. If someone pleases guru, serves guru and pleases, I'm very much pleased with him. I'm not pleased with such a person should follow the principle of sannyas or brahmacarya life or lifelong sanyasa. I'm not pleased. Whether I'm pleased with such a person, it has nothing on me, pleases guru. Very much pleased.
Devotee: What happens if commit an offence at the lotus feet of the guru? Say if one committed-
Gour Govinda Swami: Who?
Devotee: If one actually, you know, causes offences to the guru. how does one get over this? How does one become-
Gour Govinda Swami: If go, if guru excuse us, then we are excused. Nobody can excuse you. Nobody can excuse. Huh? If a thorn has pierced on your feet, will it come out by the shoulder? Huh? A thorn pierced here, will it come out here? Only will come out by that way. Where it is pierced.
bhūmau skhalita-pādānāṁ bhumireva ashrayat.That verse is...Jiva Goswami has quoted that verse. If your leg has slipped up from this ground, only this ground will give you shelter. Nobody else can give you shelter. So come to that ground.
If you have committed some offence with this Vaishnava, only he can excuse you. Nobody can excuse you. You are confident that. At last, he came to RamaKṛṣṇa Maharaj and fell flat on his bust and "Please excuse me."
Nobody else can excuse you. There's no, there's no, Krsna can never, and no other Vaishnava can answer. No. Only that Vaishnava can answer. Nobody else can excuse you. No. Not question at all.
So Jiva Goswami has quoted that verse. bhūmau skhalita-pādānāṁ bhumireva ashrayat. And that example is if a thorn is pierced, huh, in the, the foot, it will never come out by the shoulder. It will come out through that pit, only from that place where it is pierced. This is the process. Thank you.